Weekly Covid Update: 32 Active cases; recent spike at Neary School

by beth on November 3, 2021

I’m behind in sharing this week’s update on Covid figures and vaccinations in Southborough and the schools. The news that came out in the past week isn’t great.

Southborough Board of Health updated their Covid figures as of noon on Monday. There were 30 new cases confirmed in one week and 36 cases in two weeks. It’s the largest increase in cases over a week in Southborough since early January.

The Town’s cumulative total over the course of the pandemic is 672 cases with 32 cases labeled active. (That’s the highest at once since early May.) For details, click on thumbnails below:

Nov 1 - tracking Covid in Southborough Nov 1 - Cumulative total Covid in Southborough Nov 1 - Confirmed per Day in Southborough over 14 days

Earlier this fall, the Town announced a local option for drive thru testing. To take advantage of the opportunity, click here for details.

Over the past week, the Town announced plans for more Covid Vaccine Clinics.

With a recent outbreak reported at Neary School, a significant number of recent infections were in the under 11 year old age group.

Nov 1 - Covid by ages in Southborough Nov 1 - Covid by ages in Southborough over time

The most recent Northborough-Southborough Public Schools District Dashboard covered through Wednesday, October 27th, but Daily Case Counts covered additional cases through yesterday.

NSBORO New Cases & Transmissions

  • Oct 29 - New cases in NSBORO schools by weekIn 13 days, 42 new cases were reported in NSBORO schools, 35 from Southborough K-8. 20 were reported at Neary alone over the course of 8 days.
  • There were 4 new cases of “possible in-school transmissions” reported from 10/21 – 10/27. It’s too soon to report the number since. (Look for an updated Dashboard with more details on NSBORO’s site tomorrow.)

Oct 27 - Test & Stay in NSBORO schoolsNSBORO Testing

  • The latest Dashboard showed pooled screening confirmed 2 asymptomatic students/staff came as infected. 
  • 4 other cases were identified through the school’s “Test to Stay” program and one through tests of a symptomatic students/staff.
  • For instructions to participate in the schools’ screening testing program for students, click here.

Vaccination rates

As of last week’s report by Mass Dept. of Public Health on vaccinations by town – 8,839 Southborough residents had received shots (as of October 26th).

See demographic details below:*

Oct 26 - Vaccinations-table Oct 26 - Residents vaccinated by age Oct 26 - Vaccination progress by age group - 1 dose or more Oct 26 - Vax progress by age group - 1 dose or more - starting summer 2021 Oct 26 - Fully Vaxxed progress by age group - starting summer 2021 Oct 26 - Fully Vaccination progress by age group

(For more details on those groups, plus race/ethnicity, click here.)

The recent Covid cases represent a spike since the last report by Mass Dept. of Public Health (issued October 28th)** which indicated 16 cases in town over two weeks. In that report the % of tests confirmed positive was 1.02% (lower than the prior report). The Average Daily Incidence Rate per 100,000 was 11.8 (also lower than the prior period).

For details, including a look at the Average Daily Incidence Rates in our region as of that report, click on thumbnails below:

Oct 23 - Southborough Testing and Positivity Rates Oct 21 - Southborough covid map b

*Population figures are just estimates. I use demographics extrapolated from 2019 census data since the state’s population data was clearly outdated.

**The state’s report was based on tests taken in the 14 day period ending on the prior Saturday.

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1 Jen November 3, 2021 at 4:03 PM

I have a question, do our kiddos actually need this vaccination? Mine are 5 and 7 so only one is eligible. I’m pretty sure my 7yr old daughter already had covid so she doesn’t need it, but what does it do for my 5 year old boy?

Thanks for any help.

Jen

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2 beth November 3, 2021 at 4:24 PM

The Board of Health always encourages anyone with questions or concerns about vaccines to call them at 508-281-8983.

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3 Jen M November 3, 2021 at 4:57 PM

Thank you so much Beth. I will call them. I’m a little skeptical of the B.O.H. primarily because they are running a clinic. The school is pushing the clinic, but I don’t know what the reasons are. I’m waiting on a discussion with my children’s pediatrician but wanted some perspective from others so I can ask the right questions.

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4 Neelie November 3, 2021 at 5:36 PM

It’s really important for kids to get vaccinated. Not only can COVID have serious consequences for kids (see the link shared in this post), but they can spread it to other people.

Also, you can still get COVID after having had it.

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5 Jen M November 4, 2021 at 10:04 AM

Thanks Neeley. I did do my research on MIS-C and have concerns about that, but there are only a few hundred cases world wide documented from COVID-19. We get thousands of cases of MIS-C in the US every year in children from the common cold and other respiratory viruses. It’s almost like we are trying to reduce the risk of severe illness or death for kids from zero to zero. If the vaccines aren’t harmful, I suspect we will have the kids get them. I just worry vaccines will impair the natural protection from Covid long term.

6 northsider November 9, 2021 at 7:30 AM

The reason they are pushing the vaccine is because we are in a pandemic and it’s a health crisis. I’m very confused as to why people do not understand why a vaccine is being encouraged.

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7 southsider November 4, 2021 at 8:48 AM

“I’m pretty sure my 7yr old daughter already had covid so she doesn’t need it”. Jen, she’s your kid but “pretty sure” shouldn’t be good enough. Unless she was tested and confirmed positive, you can’t really know.
And Neelie ( below ) is also correct when saying that even if your daughter did have covid once, she is certainly susceptible to catching it again…and then transmitting it to other friends and family members and students and teachers.
The science says get the shots into everyone eligible.

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8 Just a friend November 4, 2021 at 11:20 AM

Southsider,

You have some strong views and I respect that. I’m not sure about the science you speak of. Give this a read it’s a decent balanced article.

https://news.yahoo.com/doctors-must-honest-parents-unknown-100213768.html

“This is not the time for uninformative persuasion; it is the time for listening, counseling and being comfortable when parents choose yes, but also when they decide to wait a little bit longer.”

Let’s listen to people like Jen and be respectful. She raises a great point about making the decision with her pediatrician. And seems to be gathering info to have that discussion.

-M

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9 Neelie November 5, 2021 at 1:23 PM
10 Jen M November 5, 2021 at 2:10 PM

Perfect. This was the exact article that really got me learning about myocardosis. It’s really poorly done and doesn’t use data, just some statistics and predictions. It’s so misleading. The Times used to have such great journalists. Where did they all go to?

11 Neelie November 4, 2021 at 12:29 PM

Jen M,

I hope you do have your kids get the vaccine. It is true that the majority of COVID cases in kids have not been severe, but we also know that, in general, not all the long term effects of COVID itself are yet known.

It is not a case of “from zero to zero”. It’s a case of needing to give a now proven to be effective– and not dangerous to most people– vaccine to as many people as possible, for individuals’ safety and for the common good. As you know, variants have cropped up because not enough people have been getting vaccinated. And wouldn’t you want to keep your children from even a small risk of a serious complication? I imagine they get flu shots every year, but perhaps they don’t.

Shots can be scary, and COVID is scary. But if my young adult son were still 5 or 7, I would be tremendously relieved that the vaccine is now going to be available to him.

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12 Jen M November 4, 2021 at 4:35 PM

Neelie,

I didn’t know that the variants are because not enough people are vaccinated. I thought is was the exact opposite effect that caused the variants. I’ll have to reconsider and look into that. I do know that its pretty useless to have them vaccinate to stop the spread. That part unfortunately is the only indisputable part of all of this. I am very concerned about a risk of complication from the Vaccine which appears it is greater harm to kids than Covid-19. Though both seem negligible, we have more data on Covid-19 being safe for kids vs. unknown long term effects of the vaccine which may make things worse. I don’t think there was a death in New England of someone under 17 that was not previously so sick that they would have died of pneumonia or the flu anyways. If there was, I can not find information on those cases. As I said before, I’ll talk to the pediatrician and ask my questions, and we will decide from there.

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13 southsider November 5, 2021 at 8:33 AM

Jen!

“I do know that its pretty useless to have them vaccinate to stop the spread”

This is exactly the opposite of what’s factual. Really widespread vaccinations are the only way to stop the spread and lessen the likelihood of new variants. Please Please Please talk to you pediatrician asap. I fear you’re getting too much mis-information when you do your own research.

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14 Neelie November 5, 2021 at 1:40 PM

I hope your pediatrician encourages you to have it done.

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15 Resident November 5, 2021 at 3:32 PM

Jen,

Don’t be pressured, do what you think is right. I hope your pediatrician listens to your concerns and comes to a conclusion that is best for both you and your child, whatever that may be.

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16 Neelie November 5, 2021 at 5:13 PM

Jen asked for help, and we’re doing that. You can see it as pressure if you like.

17 Neelie November 5, 2021 at 3:45 PM

Jen, it is general knowledge that COVID variants arose due to lack of vaccination. If more adults had gotten vaccinated when the vaccines became available, we would not be dealing with the virulent Delta and other variants. I don’t know what sources you’re using to stay up to date on things, but they seem suspect.

“If you look at an isolated risk, you could really get yourself very worked up and scared,” said Dr. Brian Feingold, an expert on heart inflammation in children at UPMC Children’s Hospital of Pittsburgh.

But Covid-19 itself, he noted, is much more apt to damage the heart permanently: “Statistically, that’s way more likely.” This is from the NY Times article I posted here.

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18 Neelie November 5, 2021 at 5:08 PM

I should have said “contagious”, not “virulent”.

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19 Resident November 5, 2021 at 3:30 PM

Neelie,

To quote you “but we also know that, in general, not all the long term effects of COVID itself are yet known.”. What about the long term effects of the vaccine? Nobody knows what that may be as the vaccine has not been around long enough or tested long enough to know. In two years will we find out that kids are dying or maimed from the vaccine we were so quick to put into their little bodies because we are running scared? I say this not only for the kids but for adults who choose not to have the vaccine.

I am vaccinated for personal reasons but I wish I wasn’t. This virus keeps manifesting differently so unless you are going to have a vaccine for each strain, you will never achieve “herd immunity”. That is a fallacy that the government is making you believe. Of the people who get COVID, the news and the government tell you over an over how many die but rarely come out with answers to how many survive. Now, you have no HIPAA law to fall back on as they have taken away your privacy too. This is personal, a personal decision, personal information on your health and your personal body to decide what you want to do with it. But, the government is taking an almost communistic view and forcing this vaccine on you. I think it is unfair. I don’t have small children, but if I did, you can surely bet I would not be putting this vaccine in their arm without knowing what the long term side effects are of them. Oh, and let’s not forget that already we have seen cases of mix-ups and children getting adult doses of the vaccine, and even before it was approved! Surely that will happen again and when somebody’s child dies from that happening, then what will the take be on that? Will we just say it is ok because it was an accident and in the name of science? I say not my kid….ever! My job is to protect my kids and in my opinion this is way too risky.

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20 Neelie November 5, 2021 at 5:29 PM

To me, protecting my kid would mean getting him the vaccine. I understand your concern, but I believe that they are way safer long term than having had COVID. You must be aware of long COVID, and permanent smell and taste loss.

You must know that many millions of people have died of COVID, and people are still dying of it every day. These vaccines were not developed haphazardly. Intensive study and thought went in to them.

I believe we may need a mandate because so many people have not gotten the vaccine. Nobody who has health conditions would be forced to get it. That would be “communism”.

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21 southsider November 6, 2021 at 9:23 AM

Resident,
People were dying and being hospitalized by the thousands and tens of thousands and you think it would have been wise to continue to test for ‘long term effects’! How long would your testing run? Two years? ten? twenty? How many more would die while the test sample was monitored. If one of your relatives got COVID during this long term evaluation, would that be ok? What if it was you in that ICU bed?

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22 Tom November 4, 2021 at 5:28 PM

Jen M. This is why they must implement vaccine mandates immediately. We need to protect children and our community from people like you who are misinformed. You probably are one of the people causing problems with the masks.

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23 Jack November 5, 2021 at 10:54 AM

This seems harsh. Jen asked a legitimate question concerning her young children’s health, and while she has received some legitimate and civil answers, this comment should have been kept to yourself. If your goal is that your comment convinces her to get her kids vaccinated, I suspect it has had the exact opposite effect and made her put up her defenses.

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24 Jen M November 5, 2021 at 1:05 PM

Jack,

Thanks. I have thick skin, and more importantly I think for myself. I encourage others to ask questions too. It’s a risk calculation. If you are comfortable you understand everything and want the vaccine, that’s amazing and I am all for it. For me, it’s not even close right now. Our entire family is fully vaccined otherwise for everything else, and we have yearly flu shots. I also made the same decisions by understanding the risks and talking to doctors. It was much easier to make those decisions with the information available. My husband and I also both have 2 Moderna shots. We were led to believe some things that were very different when we got them. That being said, I’m ok with having done it only because we already had Covid. So maybe I’m the crazy one, but it really seems irresponsible to just run to a clinic and vaccinate a child. The town and school should do a better job about the message they are sending to parents and encourage them to do their research and talk to their pediatricians.

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25 Resident November 5, 2021 at 3:34 PM

Tom,

That comment is uncalled for. I am sorry that you choose to believe everything you hear on the news and from the government who want to sway you a certain way. Being mean to another posted is not appropriate on this board or in any forum> Jen has every right to question everything for her child’s sake. She is being smart. Try to be nicer to people and not make generalization about things you don’t know.

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26 Matthew Brownell November 10, 2021 at 11:46 PM

Dear “Tom”.

Funny. . . I see Jen M as a person who can critically analyze issues and think for herself.

That’s a distinct sea change from someone like yourself- who is perfectly willing to foist a vaccine onto a demographic that has the LEAST likelihood of ever being harmed or develop serious complications from Covid, from a vaccine that does absolutely nothing to blunt the transmission of Covid.

And the cloth masks? The virus is 1 – 2 microns. The typical cloth mask is a screen of 5 microns. Do the math, sporto. You can do that, right? After all, when you take a cheap hip-shot, accusing a concerned mother that she is misinformed, a danger to the community, and the actual source of the problem, we are all to genuflect to your anonymous post? A post , coincidentally- that has all the markings of a hysterical pump & dump Woke propagandist, cancel-culture fear-monger, and central political state power-grabber?
🤦‍♂️

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27 Eileen November 12, 2021 at 12:15 PM

Matthew:

“A post , coincidentally- that has all the markings of a hysterical pump & dump Woke propagandist, cancel-culture fear-monger, and central political state power-grabber?”

Wow. Listen to yourself.

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28 Sobro Friend November 5, 2021 at 10:13 AM

Jen – if she had Covid 6 months ago or more then her immunity has decreased and she needs the vaccine as a booster. I have been checking my antibody levels and was very high at 4months post-vax but a significant drop at 6months. I am not eligible for a booster yet but I definitely will do so when I can. Anecdotally it seems that if antibody levels fall below 1000 is when breakthroughs happen more frequently.

Separately, a vaccine can not ‘impair natural protection’. Each vaccine targets different parts of the virus and your immune response can only be improved by exposing it. In fact the data shows an improved immune response for those who have already had the virus and then were vaccinated.

The BOH is not ‘getting anything’ from running a clinic. The only reason for them to push you to get your child vaxxed is so they can stop working around the clock and weekends for every breakout that hits the town. We didn’t even have a full time person in the BOH and now they are looking for 2 full time people due to this. We had ~20 positive in fifth grade, and additional ~11 in sixth THIS WEEK. Those are in different buildings. The school dashboard has 28 positive cases listed from Sobro and 3 from Nobro last week, but it only lists 13 from the fifth grade so far.

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29 John B November 5, 2021 at 2:05 PM

Jen,
By all means do what you want and do or don’t vaccinate your kids. It would be quite sporting though if you stopped asking questions and presumably seeking input when you already have your mind made up on the answers. Clearly, no one is going to convince you since you know best.

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30 Jen M November 5, 2021 at 2:14 PM

There are some very bright people in town that I’m sure can share valuable information. There is very little information shared by the town and schools besides fear. I’m hopeful people who have done their own research can share what they know.

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31 Kathy November 5, 2021 at 2:11 PM

Boston children’s is offering a webinar you might find helpful. You can also submit questions before.
https://bostonchildrens.zoom.us/webinar/register/WN_xAi1HH_wSwazCNaBskM4EA

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32 Neelie November 5, 2021 at 3:13 PM

Jen M,

It’s too bad that the NY Times article got you so concerned. I thought it was quite well written, and found it reassuring.

I understand, as a parent, that you and some others feel concerned about the vaccine for your kids. But it wouldn’t be offered if the risks outweighed the benefits.

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33 Sboro resident November 5, 2021 at 9:57 PM

It is a flip of coin for healthy children. About 150 among 73 million 0-17 kids died from Covid/pneumonia in the past two years in USA, 14 among 9 million vaccinated 12-17 kids died after the vaccine according the VAERS. If VAERS is underreporting by 10-fold as usual, deaths due to vaccine might be more than death due to COVID, among 0-17 age group.

There are kids getting sick from Covid, also kids getting sick from vaccine. Both are low risk yet deeply concerning. It is up to the grace of God, no matter what we decide.

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34 Betsy November 8, 2021 at 5:36 PM

It’s always good to consider the risks. It is important to have the right numbers in mind, though. The CDC posted data on 11/3/21 showing 680 deaths from covid for kids ages 0-18 from start of January 2020 through the end of October 2021. There are more than 5,200 cases of multisystem inflammatory syndrome in children (MIS-C) reported over a similar time period, and though most of these children live, more than half have been hospitalized.

Link to the CDC sources are below.

https://data.cdc.gov/NCHS/Provisional-COVID-19-Deaths-Focus-on-Ages-0-18-Yea/nr4s-juj3

https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/acip/meetings/downloads/slides-2021-11-2-3/03-COVID-Jefferson-508.pdf

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35 Sboro resident November 9, 2021 at 11:42 AM

“The CDC posted data on 11/3/21 showing 680 deaths [from–>with] covid”, that is a big difference here between “from” and “with” per CDC footnote.

“death with COVID and pneumonia” is more likely the number closer to “death from COVID”, which is about 150 in almost 2 years among about 73 million kids.

VAERS reported 14 deaths among 9 million vaccinations of 12-17 yo, which translates to about 112 VAERS deaths if all 73 million kids were vaccinated.

Other factors to consider:
1. VAERS is famous for underreporting, as much as 10 fold or maybe even more.
2. Getting vaccine does not prevent COVID deaths. There is zero death in placebo/vaccine groups for 5-11 yo clinical trial, the projections from the useless PCR test results are wishful thinking at best.
3. About half of kids already caught COVID and recovered without showing any symptoms back in June 2021. The percentage should be higher now.
4. For >99.99% kids who recover from COVID, the immunity would be long-lasting rather than ~6 months. AKA, no need to risk vaccine injury every 6 months.
5. Even FDA expert panel members were not sure about approving the vaccine for healthy children. They voted 17-0-1 as they were scared of blocking vaccine access to parents who desperately wanted this vaccine.

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36 Jen M November 9, 2021 at 12:21 PM

Try telling that to my kid who now comes home from school and tells me all the kids that got it. All I hear is “Mommy when can I get it?” I heard rumors that teachers were taking polls of students to see who got it already and who was not getting it. I think we need to move far away from Southborough unfortunately. Something is seriously wrong here. It seems much worse than most nearby towns.

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37 beth November 9, 2021 at 12:58 PM

That seems to be an extreme take – especially since you haven’t stated that your pediatrician has advised against the vaccine.

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38 Sboro resident November 9, 2021 at 1:34 PM

Can anyone locate a pediatrician in the US who suggests against the COVID vaccine for healthy kids in public and yet still gets to keep the job?

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39 Jen M November 9, 2021 at 1:54 PM

Well think about it. With the obsessed vaccine culture in town, if the decision is not to get it, what is the path where my child is not discriminated against in some form. Maybe it happens at an after school activity, a play date, or just being picked on at school.

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40 southsider November 10, 2021 at 8:46 AM

Maybe it’s not discrimination. Maybe it’s more about parents trying to protect their children from potential virus carriers… Would your kid be happier to be invited but then told that a mask while indoors was mandatory when none of the other kids needed to wear a mask?
I’d suggest it’s less about being vaccine obsessed and more about trying not to die from the pandemic and to avoid exposing any friends/relatives to it.
And of course the kids are talking about it… why wouldn’t they? It’s a big deal.

Seems you’ve already made up your mind… I wish you and your family luck.

41 Sboro resident November 9, 2021 at 1:14 PM

My kid’s class is only 20% vaccinated so far, the hesitant parents are still the majority right now. Even if we were to become minority one day, I do not see that as a reason to change my decision. If the reasoning supports the decision, why surrender to (or get bothered by) the dominant public opinion?

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42 Neelie November 9, 2021 at 6:31 PM

You will find that it won’t be much different in other towns, especially in Massachusetts.

Here is a link to an NBC article:

https://www.nbcnews.com/health/kids-health/pediatricians-want-parents-know-covid-vaccine-kids-rcna4842

“As for concerns about heart inflammation known as myocarditis or pericarditis, no cases were reported in the Pfizer trial of children 5 to 11. The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention says there have been rare cases, mostly in male teens and young adults, and these patients can be treated with medicine and recover quickly.

The risk of heart inflammation from having Covid is actually a much bigger threat, said Dr. Gigi Chawla, chief of general pediatrics at Children’s Minnesota.

‘Myocarditis is part of the illness that can be experienced by people with Covid-19,” she said. “The rates of people having myocarditis associated with illness versus vaccine are far greater for illness. So if a family truly is concerned about myocarditis, they should be vaccinated.'”

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43 Resident November 10, 2021 at 2:44 PM

First of all any teacher who is taking polls in class should be reprimanded. That is completely not ok. Any principal who allows it should also be reprimanded. They honestly should know better. And yes, your child will be discriminated against, because the parents in this town go overboard on everything. You have to go with your heart and explain to your child why. It is ok to not be vaccinated. It is ok to make the best decision for your family. All these vaccine hungry people can shoot their kids up with stuff they have no idea about and then when something goes wrong down the line, they will be the first to sue anyone they can.

Jen, such a hard decision. I know if I had younger children I would certainly not be putting that into their arm. This is America and we do have the right to choose, at least for now but probably not for long. When the government mandates what you put in your body, we have crossed the line. You have taken a beating here by the likes of Nellie and Tom and some others. Follow your heart. Only you know what is best for your child and you should have the right to choose.

It would be interesting to see how these vax mongers treat people coming in from other countries that do not have the usual vaccines like small pox, MMR, etc. Do you all discriminate against those people too or do you hound them to go get those vaccines? Jen has a right to choose, stop bullying her and let her make the best decision for her and her child. I can only imagine she is sorry she even asked the question. People, BE KIND.

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44 beth November 10, 2021 at 3:47 PM

And yet – Jen M claimed she wanted feedback from commenters.

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45 southsider November 10, 2021 at 4:14 PM

Resident,
I wonder how much you know about the smallpox vaccine or the polio vaccine or the vaccines for measles? mumps? … the government mandated these years ago and we haven’t all turned in to zombies. There was no line crossed.
Do you have kids? Some of these were absolutely required before a child can enter the school system in the best interests of Public Safety. With this new pandemic, there have been new measures developed, tested, evaluated by experts across the globe and widely distributed with wonderful outcomes.
Yesterday, the state of Texas published stats showing that an enormous percent of the COVID deaths in Texas were unvaccinated people of all ages. I’m quite sure their governor wouldn’t have wanted such stats published if there was any doubt to their veracity.
Jen wanted feedback… the science is so clear… and the precedence for the government to encourage and even mandate is decades old and has proven so successful… we’ve wiped out smallpox and polio… let’s wipe out COVID!

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46 Sboro resident November 10, 2021 at 5:17 PM

If you can wipe out flu with flu vaccine, then you might wipe out COVID with COVID vaccine.

47 Neelie November 10, 2021 at 4:51 PM

Wow, I never thought of myself as a Vax Monger. But thank you.

According to Jen, she heard a “rumor” that teachers were taking polls about the vaccine. Are they really? If they are, I don’t see that as necessarily being a bad thing. I’m sure it’s being done very sensitively, knowing the quality of the Southborough schools.

It has nothing to do with discrimination. Parents and teachers are concerned about the health of their children and others. After the past year and a half, of course they are.

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48 Neelie November 9, 2021 at 6:25 PM
49 SB Resident November 10, 2021 at 1:31 PM

I’m having trouble verifying any of the data you are claiming. Sources?

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50 Eileen November 10, 2021 at 4:56 PM

They’re in the article. But here’s another good link:

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/vaccines/recommendations/children-teens.html?s_cid=11372:covid%20vaccine%20side%20effects%20kids:sem.ga:p:RG:GM:gen:PTN:FY21

You should follow the CDC, the World Health Organization, and trustworthy news sources. Factual information is at your disposal.

BTW, I’m having trouble verifying any of the data you claimed in your post.

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51 Sboro resident November 10, 2021 at 6:43 PM

For covid deaths among 0-17 yo, look at table 1 in this CDC link:
https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covid_weekly/index.htm#AgeAndSex
As of today (11/10/2021), there are 157 deaths involving COVID and pneumonia, 595 deaths involving COVID. Read footnote [1], it is death with COVID, not death due to COVID. 157 might be closer to (and bigger than) the number of children deaths due to COVID in USA in almost 2 years, as pneumonia is usually on the pathway between covid and covid-caused death.

For number of 0-17 yo children in USA, there were 72.8 million in 2020, and 74.1 million in 2021: https://www.childstats.gov/americaschildren/tables/pop1.asp

For VAER deaths, 14 reported among 8.9 million of vaccinated 12-17 yo as of July 16 2021: https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/70/wr/mm7031e1.htm

Vaccine safety data underreporting data: “Adverse events from vaccines are common but underreported, with less than one percent reported to the Food and Drug Administration (FDA).” Source: https://digital.ahrq.gov/ahrq-funded-projects/electronic-support-public-health-vaccine-adverse-event-reporting-system

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52 Eileen November 10, 2021 at 7:48 PM

I just read these, and my interpretation of them is different from yours.

53 SB Resident November 11, 2021 at 2:39 PM

Thank you for the links. You made the leap that those 14 deaths were due to the vaccine, but from the source it says, “Impressions regarding cause of death did not indicate a pattern suggestive of a causal relationship with vaccination.” In order to assume that the deaths must have been vaccine related, you’d need to know the time frame after vaccination in which the deaths are reported and in that time frame how many deaths usually occur in that age group.

54 Amy November 11, 2021 at 8:50 AM

Come on Eileen. The CDC lost a tremendous amount of credibility in the last 20 months. You don’t have to look any further than last Friday when Director Walensky made the statement that cloth masks have 80% Efficacy. It wasn’t a casual misspoken statement. This was a specific scripted video dedicated to only this fact. Thats not even on the spectrum of truth and any person who has attempted to source a study to reference on mask efficacy knows this is a blatant lie. More simply, nobody says this even on TV or Facebook or any other common outlet for information.

Most people with views like you expressed are extremely tribal I find. Its like a cult. You can fix this, and escape that world by looking at the data yourself. Find someone to help you analyze data if you need to, and go take a look for yourself. You might find out things such as it’s nearly impossible to find schools that have no control measures for Covid have worse Covid-19 outcomes than those that do. Highest vaccinated communities int the US are seeing the highest case rate numbers of the entire pandemic. There may not be a single death in all of New England of someone under 18 from Covid-19. In nearly everyone of the deaths there were multiple comorbidities. Even if you assume every single death from or with Covid in a child is 100 percent because of the virus and these were all healthy kids, the number pales in comparison to the increased suicide rate.

Open your eyes, stop listening to all of these “trustworthy news sources” and please just think for yourself and use your heart and you will see a whole new world. Vaccines are great by the way. I advocate for vaccines. The MRNA shots are a treatment or drug not a vaccine. I took my two shots. Should kids get it now? Each and every parent should make their own decision and not be influenced by people like Eileen, the Television, Facebook, or a Teacher.

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55 Eileen November 12, 2021 at 12:28 PM

Dear Amy:

Yes, I do trust those trustworthy news sources, and am quite capable of analyzing data. Your long winded patronizing (matronizing?) comment is full of un truths
I also find that people tend to forget, or don’t know, that masks are to protect other people, not you.
Not suggesting that you or others are “anti vaccine”, but a good many of them are.

56 Eileen November 11, 2021 at 5:44 PM

Just realized that i got you confused with “Sboro resident”.

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57 Beth Dambacher November 9, 2021 at 2:27 PM

As a member of the Youth Commission, I would like to remind people that, at the Southborough Youth and Family Services, we have trained professionals who can assist in helping town residents with any anxious emotions they may be experiencing, no matter the topic or the source of anxiety. If covid related issues are just really getting to anyone and you need a person who is experienced in listening and helping, please feel free to reach out to our wonderful staff at the town’s department of Youth and Family 508-481-5676. (It’s free to Southborough residents)

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58 beth November 10, 2021 at 8:19 AM

Thank you for sharing that!

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59 Dan November 10, 2021 at 6:30 PM

A new randomized study of Pfizer vax for 5-11 was published today in the New England Journal of Medicine. High efficacy and immune response. “No vaccine-related serious adverse events were noted.”

https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMoa2116298

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60 Sboro resident November 11, 2021 at 9:18 AM

The following texts are quoted directly from the NEJM paper above.
1. No cases of severe Covid-19 or MIS-C were reported.
2. No deaths or adverse events leading to withdrawal were reported.
3. No myocarditis, pericarditis, hypersensitivity, or anaphylaxis in BNT162b2 recipients was reported.
4. Three serious adverse events in two participants were reported by the cutoff date; all three (postinjury abdominal pain and pancreatitis in a placebo recipient and arm fracture in a BNT162b2 recipient) were considered to be unrelated to the vaccine or placebo.
5. Lymphadenopathy was reported in 10 BNT162b2 recipients (0.9%) and 1 placebo recipient (0.1%).

Overall, placebo seems even safer if we can do causal inference solely based on the clinical trial data of 751 placebo subjects and 1517 vaccine subjects, with a median follow-up of 2.3 months.

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61 Pharma scientist November 11, 2021 at 4:19 PM

“No vaccine-related serious adverse events were noted (in 2.3 months)”, the time window should be the key of this conclusion.

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62 Eileen November 12, 2021 at 12:13 PM

SB Resident:

You completely misunderstood. I did not make the leap that the 14 deaths were due to the vaccine. I posted those links to show that the vaccines have been shown to be safe.

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63 Eileen November 12, 2021 at 1:57 PM

I’m sorry, SB resident, I think you were replying to Sboro resident.

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64 Frank Crowell November 12, 2021 at 4:50 PM

Are “trustworthy news sources” the same ones who repeat the Administration claim that the Build Back Better bill will not cost anything without challenge?

I could go on with other examples, but I will be kind.

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